Tromi Leaderboard

tmfc · Post by **tmfc** » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:39 pm

getting better at recognizing patterns but am still getting used to not having the crutches of a ghost piece & hold piece lol. lots of bad drops in here but oh well maybe i'll get a better one later.

Post by **mycophobia** » Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:14 pm

you show good sense. as you get a better grip on the mechanics you should see rapid improvement

Post by **mycophobia** » Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:00 pm

oh baby

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Gallirium · Post by **Gallirium** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:29 am

Finally broke 400k, hope to reach 1 Dan one day!

Caithness · Post by **Caithness** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 8:37 pm

Evil Eagle · Post by **Evil Eagle** » Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:22 pm

mycophobia wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:06 pm so very close to level 6... keep it up

Made it to the World Tree...

Post by **mycophobia** » Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:16 am

went up a place as well, nice. cool to see a bunch of tromi-specific kicks at the end there lol

SweetSea-NoSweet · Post by **SweetSea-NoSweet** » Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:02 am

Due to my forgotten to capture the result screen when grading up, so I screenshoted the name entry instead

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For somehow the old grade was written instead of the new one. Is this the original Tromi's bug or intentional or I accidentally made it?

Post by **mycophobia** » Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:29 pm

the replay will always reflect the player's grade as of their starting the game. just kind of one of those arbitrary decisions i made a long time ago

nila · Post by **nila** » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:25 am

playing Tromi at 2am gone wrong, tanked grade from 2D back down to 1D already

but my return from TAP to Tromi is maybe helpful? new PB

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Post by **mycophobia** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:25 pm

new patch with some good stuff in it. again, doesn't change replay compatibility or leaderboard validity. but still good to have:

viewtopic.php?p=98#p98

sparsevector · Post by **sparsevector** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:24 pm

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Lots of embarrassing mistakes but I want to share to say thanks for Tromi

Post by **mycophobia** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:47 pm

Thank you for your playing

Arch Nemesis · Post by **Arch Nemesis** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:15 pm

first time on the new version. feel like it started as the sloppiest tetris I've played in a long time but I sharpened up a little. game feels great. need to start rotating counterclockwise instead of just clockwise always. played a few more after but my focus was slipping bad so this is still my best

Post by **mycophobia** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:58 pm

good to see you here. your criticism of version 1 was a big reason i did the speed curve the way i did it for version 2, so im glad you seem to be enjoying it more this time. and nice job nearly getting 300 lines on your first try

netdoll · Post by **netdoll** » Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:50 pm

First time breaking 500k (513,792 @ 5k starting, promoted to 2k at end of run), figured now would be as good a time as any to post

nila · Post by **nila** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:30 am

New PB broke 600k with (I think) these 2 tricks:

1. Avoid singles at all costs - in 20G efficiency even single vs double is a matter of ~500 points vs. ~2500 points
2. Stack as low as possible for early/low G efficiency (idk how much of a difference this actually makes though)

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Could maybe hit 3D soon, especially if I'd maybe stop playing through tilt and tanking my progress :S

Post by **mycophobia** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:55 pm

nice one, one more in the 600k club lol

pkaz · Post by **pkaz** » Wed May 01, 2024 1:22 pm

2D yippee! also a cheeky bravo going into level 9

nila · Post by **nila** » Thu May 02, 2024 8:05 am

Small improvement on the see-saw between 3D and 2D

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Post by **mycophobia** » Thu May 02, 2024 1:07 pm

top 3, nice. very good pace in the first half

pkaz · Post by **pkaz** » Fri May 10, 2024 9:05 pm

600k woohooo!

spc · Post by **spc** » Fri May 17, 2024 5:36 pm

rip day 2 wr

https://youtu.be/5jn4gNaaCY4

spc · Post by **spc** » Sat May 18, 2024 7:14 pm

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Anerag · Post by **Anerag** » Sun May 26, 2024 11:19 am

Felt a bit sluggish but made up for it with clean stacking.

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Post by **mycophobia** » Wed May 29, 2024 7:13 pm

A new patch is available if you so desire:

viewtopic.php?t=30

Mizu · Post by **Mizu** » Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:09 pm

First run, getting used to the game

Mizu · Post by **Mizu** » Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:20 pm

Slightly better

Post by **mycophobia** » Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:34 pm

congrats on being the 20th registered player! sadly i had not prepared a prize for this occasion

Mizu · Post by **Mizu** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 6:32 pm

Oshisaure · Post by **Oshisaure** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:29 pm

Decided to give this game a shot and after playing a little bit I managed to break 500k, which I'm happy with right now as I was closer to the 440k mark when just starting.

This game is interesting. Here's most of my thoughts on it so far:

I very much like that this game is not majorly focused on speed. The 300 lines hard cap means that past reaching that point it becomes entirely about efficiency and good stacking, where you needed a decent Tetris rate to get high scores, similar to in NES Tetris. In Tromi there is still a reward for playing fast but it feels not nearly significant enough to me to be something worth focusing on, and the maximum speed seems like it reaches at worst TGM2 speeds. Makes it feel like this game was made for people who want more of TGM1 rather than more of TGM3.
Handling is pretty damn smooth, and the custom rotation rules feel very "ARS but a tad more permissive". Some of the additions in it seem quite specific, but they never get in the way of anything and are more like cool tech if you know they exist. I would get mad at the solid ceiling preventing me from clutching a recovery at the top of the board sometimes but I'll let that slide and say skill issue on my part or something lmao
The difficulty curve being entirely based on your score both means that you have some feedback of how you're doing through level ups and comparing that to your line count, but it's also smooth enough to avoid the issue of your run being cut short because of a sudden speed increase like how TGM3 likes to funnel all your grades towards S4-S6. Here rather than cutting your game short, it gives you the opportunity to survive past it and set a new best, since reaching that point means you already reached a certain grade anyway.
The account system I feel pretty indifferent about, but at least I appreciate that each run is still valuable on its own, unlike GMs in TGM3. At least the account system being there means you can play the consistency game in a more straightforward system that doesn't add random chance for an exam into the mix. Would like to see a game expand on the account idea by keeping track of more things, letting you see more stats and whatnot. Maybe someday.
Presentation is pretty good. Music is good, graphics are pretty clean. I like the line clear animation, it's pretty subtle. I really like the animated nature background, gives me a sort of CD-i vibe. Didn't even realise it was a fork of Cambridge until I tried it and it was pointed it out to me, so good job on the theming. Also I vibe with whatever the hell is going on on the title screen.

So yeah all in all it's a fun take on classic TGM executed pretty well and I'm here for it.

Post by **mycophobia** » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:18 pm

thank you so much for the detailed thoughts! most of it is pretty in line with what i was intending. i'm glad so many people are picking up on the CD-i vibe too lol, it was definitely an aesthetic inspiration.

if you'd like your score to be on the leaderboard, would you be able to provide a replay?

Oshisaure · Post by **Oshisaure** » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:00 am

Oh whoops, my bad, had a hiccup when posting and forgot to attach it again, here it is

Mizu · Post by **Mizu** » Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:21 pm

bad

spc · Post by **spc** » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:53 pm

seven

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https://youtu.be/snVZMi4Otns

Post by **mycophobia** » Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:14 pm

sheesh. thats too many points. props

nila · Post by **nila** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:59 am

spooky month resurrection edition/now in 3D

not 100% sure how i improved here other than somehow "locking in" as the kids say. maybe a little bit of Tromi flavored break theory too

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Post by **mycophobia** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:18 pm

Big jump! Nice job.

sjn · Post by **sjn** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:26 pm

mycophobia is a very fun game

sjn · Post by **sjn** » Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:08 pm

hello everynyan! how are you? fine, thank you

sjn · Post by **sjn** » Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:13 pm

Score PB + rankup

Post by **mycophobia** » Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:56 pm

nice improvement. keep it up!

Arch Nemesis · Post by **Arch Nemesis** » Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:20 pm

your password recovery emails go to spam, dunno if that's something you can fix on your end or not

haven't played in a while so started slow but came out ok. new slightly improved PB here, can go up one rank on the board. some very gross digging that didn't work very well but I had a spin I liked at some point. high gravity is a bitch but I did a bit better than usual it felt like. I feel like there's a correlation between me screwing up early and getting better scores later, guessing there's some wrinkle in the difficulty curve that makes it go slower if I mess up early and gives me a better scoring window than if I play solidly early. might account for why I seem to get better scores when I haven't played in a while and am remembering how to play

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Post by **mycophobia** » Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:50 pm

honestly i'm just happy the emails get delivered at all. it's a real pain getting email out from a domain that isn't from one of the four or so companies that control the internet these days.

anyways gg! i really like how good you are at just surviving for a long time. its a good skill to have

Arch Nemesis · Post by **Arch Nemesis** » Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:59 pm

mycophobia wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:50 pm honestly i'm just happy the emails get delivered at all. it's a real pain getting email out from a domain that isn't from one of the four or so companies that control the internet these days.

anyways gg! i really like how good you are at just surviving for a long time. its a good skill to have

thanks. I'm trying to get better at seeing the whole shape of the board and not set myself up where I'm going to end up needing very specific pieces or get screwed but that's a tough skill to develop. got another new PB, not much better but I'm posting it because I got killed by not being able to rotate I-pieces quickly enough when the gravity gets really high which has given me trouble in a few games. is there a trick to it or do I just need to have better timing?

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Post by **mycophobia** » Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:38 pm

You just need to learn how the I piece rotates. Its basic rotation, taken from Sega's 1988 Tetris, is this:

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Note that there's only two states, and that its center of rotation is the second mino from the top or right. This means it has a right-side bias. It's rather inflexible by default, but Tromi has a system of wallkicks that's honestly too complicated to explain for the purposes of this question but I promise it makes sense lol.

In any case, in the following two situations and with Tromi's wallkicks, this is the maximum elevation allowed for the I piece to be rotated into a right-side well and a left-side well, respectively:

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In this first situation the very bottom of the vertical I piece would be blocked by the stack, but in Tromi when that particular blockage occurs it will attempt to kick the piece one space up, which means it would successfully rotate and you could tap right and it would fall into the right well.

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In this second situation the third mino from the top of the vertical I would be blocked by the stack, which in Tromi takes precedence in wallkick considerations over the bottom mino being blocked, and it will attempt to shift the piece one space left instead. Here it would successfully rotate, after which you could go one space left and get it into the left well.

At high enough gravity you would be able to simply hold the left or right direction to make it autoshift into one of those positions, after which you could tap rotate and it would appear to just rotate into the well. It takes practice to get this kind of finesse down.

Most importantly, in case you don't know already, you can hold a rotate button down before a piece spawns and it will spawn in that orientation. In the two cases above this would work fine as the center part of the stack is perfectly flat so it wouldn't get caught in anything while moving, but in situations where it would get caught you might want to keep the I piece in its horizontal orientation while getting it over to one side or the other, THEN rotate it into the well.

I hope this isn't like super overwhelming lol. Maybe a more helpful thing to do is to go into the training mode where you have infinite lock delay and just rotate pieces around, see what works and what doesn't.

Arch Nemesis · Post by **Arch Nemesis** » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:43 am

that's helpful info for sort of understanding what's happening behind the scenes, and being able to start with a block rotated will be useful. I also didn't realize that the high gravity training gave you time to try moving things around, that's more useful to me as a beginner than just jumping in and trying to survive at max gravity immediately.